Thursday, 16 October 2014

Was Mancham Under Pressure from Rene to Remove USAF Tracking Station?


1. SEYCHELLES CHIEF MINISTER JAMES MANCHAM STOPPED BY EMBASSY LONDON ON HIS RETURN TRIP FROM A CONFERENCE ON TOURISM IN MEXICO IN ORDER TO EXPRESS CERTAIN CONCERNS HE HAD ABOUT FUTURE OF U.S.-SEYCHELLES RELATIONS. HE HAD CALLED AT FCO TO DISCUSS UK AND US RELATIONS AND WAS REFERRED TO US ON LATTER. HIS CONCERN IS FOCUSED ON WHAT HE REGARDS AS A DETERIORATION OF THE PUBLIC RELATIONS ASPECT OF THE USAF TRACKING STATION OPERATION IN SEYCHELLES, EXACERBATED BY THE IMPENDING TERMINATION OF THE PL-480 SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM IN THE SEYCHELLES. THIS PROGRAM IS LOOKED UPON IN THE SEYCHELLES AS BEING PART OF THE "QUID" FOR SEYCHELLOIS PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE OF THE TRACKING STATION. 2. MANCHAM OUTLINED THE HISTORY OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE AMERICAN PERSONNEL AT THE STATION AND THE GENERAL POPULATION SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE TRACK- ING STATION IN 1966. HE SAID THAT IN THE EARLY DAYS THERE SEEMED TO BE A DETERMINED EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE AMERICANS TO CREATE A GOOD IMAGE AND HAPPY RELATIONS CONFIDENTIAL CONFIDENTIAL PAGE 02 LONDON 13342 141941Z WITH THE PEOPLE.

HOWEVER, OF LATE IT HAS APPEARED TO HIM AND TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE THAT THE AMERICANS ARE TAKING THE SEYCHELLOIS FOR GRANTED. THERE HAVE BEEN NO SERIOUS INCIDENTS BUT NOTHING POSITIVE HAS BEEN DONE LATELY TO FOSTER GOOD RELATIONS BETWEEN THE AMERICANS AND THE POPULATION OF THE ISLANDS. MANCHAM SAID THAT CUTTING OFF THE PL-480 PROGRAM WOULD AFFECT SOME 8,600 PEOPLE, 4,500 OF THEM PRE-SCHOOL CHILDREN WHO DEPEND ALMOST ENTIRELY ON THE FOOD PROGRAM FOR THEIR LUNCHES AND SUPPLEMENTS TO THEIR DIET. WHEN PL-480 ENDS, THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE BENEFITED FROM IT WILL HAVE TO BUY ADDITIONAL FOOD AT VERY HIGH PRICES. TO MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE, THE SEYCHELLES HAS UNTIL THIS YEAR DEPENDED ON THAILAND FOR ITS STAPLE FOOD SUPPLY, RICE, BUT THAILAND IS NOW UNABLE TO MEET THE SEYCHELLES REQUIREMENTS AND THEY HAVE BEEN FORCED TO BUY INFERIOR RICE FROM EGYPT AT THREE TIMES THE OLD PRICE. 3. THE PROBLEM FOR MANCHAM IS A POLITICAL ONE AS THE OPPOSITION, WHICH FAVORS INDEPENDENCE, IS NOW CALLING ATTENTION TO THE CHANGE IN THE AMERICAN ATTITUDE AND THE LOSS OF FOOD SUPPLIES. MANCHAM SAID IT WOULD BE BETTER FROM A POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW HAD WE NEVER ESTABLISHED THE PL-480 PROGRAM. THIS SITUATION IS WORSENED BY THE REALIZATION OF THE SEYCHELLOIS THAT THE WEALTHY AMERICANS PAY NO TAXES AND CAN IMPORT ANYTHING THEY WANT ON A DUTY FREE BASIS. ON A SMALL ISLAND, THIS DISPARITY BETWEEN LOCALS AND AMERICANS IS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS. 4. WHEN ASKED IF HE HAD TALKED TO ANY AMERICAN OFFICIALS IN THIS VEIN PREVIOUSLY, MANCHAM SAID THAT HE HAD NOT. HE HAD THOUGHT OF STOPPING BY WASHINGTON ON HIS WAY BACK FROM MEXICO BUT DECIDED THAT BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT PREOCCUPATIONS THERE, HE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE. ALTHOUGH USAID OFFICER SHERMAN FROM NAIROBI HAS BEEN TO THE SEYCHELLES TO INFORM OFFICIALS OF THE TERMINATION OF THE PL-480 PROGRAM AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN NO DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN SEYCHELLOIS OFFICIALS AND EMBASSY NAIROBI OFFICERS CONCERNING THE POLITICAL IMPACT OF THIS ACTION. WE DESCRIBED TO MANCHAM REASONS WHY PL-480 HAD BEEN DRASTICALLY CURTAILED ON A WORLDWIDE BASIS. HE SEEMED TO APPRECIATE THIS POINT BUT WAS PLEADING FOR CONFIDENTIAL CONFIDENTIAL PAGE 03 LONDON 13342 141941Z SOME SORT OF GESTURE FROM THE UNITED STATES WHICH WOULD ENABLE THE SEYCHELLES GOVERNMENT TO MAKE THE CONTINUED PRESENCE OF THE TRACKING STATION POLITICALLY ACCEPTABLE. WE PROMISED TO CONVEY HIS VIEWS TO WASHINGTON AND NAIROBI. ANNENBERG CONFIDENTIAL

Source:  Wikileaks

32 comments:

  1. Mancham has always been a very selfish man en grander lespri. he demonstrated that in 1991 when he was allowed to return from exile betraying the people of Seychelles.
    He then concretised this by going into bed with SPPF.They been in love ever since.I heard now he want a baby to come from that solid relationship.Guy Agatt.

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  2. During the SPUP Strikes and Protests before Independence, Posters with the following words were omnipresent:

    YANKEE GO HOME!

    Rene always hated the Americans.

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  3. Surely Mancham was under pressure to get rid from USA present in Seychelles just on the eve of Independnece.The reason seems to be a pre-meditating act that would pave the way for a Coup D'etat .By getting rid with USa on our soil,removed the fear of no failing their Coup ,for the present on the USA could have meant a USa intervention to deter the Coup especially at a time when there was a harsh ideological fight between the Western World and Soveit Union over who would have more influences on other countries and to get them side on one or the other side.

    We could say unlike Pl would like us to believe that the Coup Dêtat was not thing that came for reasons given by Pl thugs back then ,such as,that "Mancham was representing Imperialism,a noecolonailist,anti-indepedence etc...)but pre-meditated,organized crime against the people of Seychelles in order to force Dictatorship on us.THis could be confirmed by the facts that after the coup ,Pl stopped using the slogan Sesel Pou Seselwa,ubt rstarted to glorified Soviet communism--it ended Sesel POu Seslewa and literally started with the new slogan called--Communsim/Socialism or death---in other words "we should sacrifice not for the country but for communism.( Pl wanted us to Communism dischadists).

    Jeanne D'Arc

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  4. Was to Prepare the ground for the COUP in 1977.First,Pl thugs decided that USA is too big a deterrence to conduct a coup.so it must be asked to leave our land,thereby reducing the fear of a USA intervention:Second send Mancham of a world trips something he adored,in order to get rid of him without the need to execute him,in order not to raise suspicion and anger among the people.We know howver,there were no horning horn on the streets in support of Pl coup.A kids we remember very well that just after Pl wnet on rampage,Tanzianian mercenaires was rushed to our shores to shoulder Pl thugs who were still under fear of a US intervention.Mancham to naïve was sent in exile and USA "Yankees go back home.But Pl fear of USA coming back with force did not ended after the coup,all along the first two decades Pl communist killers were active with the support of African Communsit states and Soviet Union were active with slogan such as "No nuclear base in the Indain OCean----and against USA present on Diego Garcia"which has resulted Seychelles loosing Diego Garcia as part of its natural territories,given to Mauritius because the later was more opened minded,non-aligned and flexible in the eyes of super powers.

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  5. Mancham e un Fes kaka Sa.

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  6. The Seychelles on Friday sealed its entry to the World Trade Organization, the Geneva-based body whose 160 members set the rules of global commerce said Friday.

    The Indian Ocean island, which has spent 18 years negotiating to join, is set to win formal approval in December from the WTO's ruling body to become the organisation's 161st member.

    "I welcome the hard work undertaken by WTO members and the government of Seychelles to complete this accession process," WTO chief Roberto Azevedo said.

    "The WTO provides a vital platform for small economies like Seychelles to make their voice heard at the global level," he said.

    WTO entry negotiations can take several years because aspirants are required to strike deals with a range of individual economies already inside the organisation, before such accords are folded into one overarching entry package.

    The WTO's member economies craft trade rules among themselves in an attempt to ensure a level playing field and spur growth by opening markets and removing trade barriers, including subsidies, excessive taxes and regulations.

    But bitter differences have meant that they repeatedly have failed to conclude their Doha Round of trade liberalisation talks, launched in 2001 with the stated goal of harnessing trade to underpin development in poorer nations.

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  7. Just to let you know Mancham was never fully in charge when he was rulling Seychelles. The legendary FAR was always pressuring him. That's why Stanley Preira did with them in. London just before independent.

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  8. Mancham was a capitalist, playboy, free enterprise, democratic liberal.
    Rene was a communist, marxist, AK47 shoot first ask questions later type of an authoritarian dictator.
    If you did not like either of them, you could have got rid of Mancham by the vote or peaceful protest.
    If you do not like Rene, there is no way you are going to get rid of him!
    Here is my point.
    Why are we continually stating what we already know?
    Mancham is a capitalist playboy.
    Rene/Michel are communist dictators.
    What is it you want for your future?
    Or do you not care at all?
    My fellow countrymen and women,
    I am deeply worried by your just do not care attitude.

    OK (sarcasm) let us just talk about the past.
    Olivier Maradan, Mary-Jane, Lavalas........

    Christopher Gill has been trying to wake you up.
    Many of you are still asleep.

    I am not asking you to support Christopher Gill blindly.
    I, at least want you to ask questions!

    I believe that we must talk.
    Stop bending over backwards!

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    1. Rene was a dictator but he was without any doubt the best president Seychelles had. Both Mancham and Michel are the same. Both are idiots and will sell their mother, daughters for money. So between the 3 evils I say bring back Rene.

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  9. For arguments sake.

    I PUT IT TO YOU:

    If we had gone forward with Mancham...............
    No Coup D'Etat.
    The Seychelles would be much better off today.

    I ALSO PUT IT TO YOU.

    That Mancham would not have survived a second term in office.
    But that would be because the Seychelles had strong SONS and DAUGHTERS that could have taken the lead.

    All of that was destroyed by France Albert Rene and his AK47.

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  10. YOU CALL THE SEYCHELLES FREE?

    41 YEARS OF THE SAME SH#T IS FREE?

    you can fool some people some of the time..........
    I am not some and you can forget all.

    Takamaka.

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  11. Mancham has become for bribes Pl bully.And seems to like his new position as bully of the country.He redicule himself amking himself look primitive,under educted,stupid as Michel.You donot deservbe to look that way and be a stooge to an idiot like Michel,Mancham,You donot feel ashame allowing your soul to be directed by a half-brain donkey of whom you hundred times better educated than?

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  12. The bottom line is he is after more money sucking the tax payers hard earning.E vivre parey un king Dan paradi.Un bougue Ki Ti pou touye Li le 5 Juin 1977 Si e Ti Mahe.You closed your eyes on the suffering of the people to pleased your aggressors.Guy Agatt.

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  13. Jimmy inn tomb Dan bakey yaya.
    Inn venn seychellois for his own advantage.E pas oule prend son responsibility akose e per fizi.zot remarked Ki sak fois e Annan election Mahe e prend son semen e ale.un de se jour ou pou retounen an exile ancore pe tar ton.Trous Claire.

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  14. Jimmy has become a willing stooge for Michel with the help of Khalifa who organized THE RECONCILIATION BETWEEN <rENE AND mANCHAM.iN THIS DEAL ORCHESTRATED BY kHALIFA,both Mancham and Rene pocket bribes for their re-union.The bribes must have been high that Mancham has chosen only to support PL even when thecountry is free falls.Waht for a wicked.

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  15. UB40 rock Eden Island but a concert only for first class society not for second class.

    DISCRIMINATION.

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  16. Anyone knows if Jimmy was there in attendance?

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  17. Across the bridge onto Eden Island reminds me of the old days of Seychelles Club ! FAR can educate you about Seychelles Club ! SPTC

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  18. Can history repeat itself.what comes round go round.time will surely tell.
    It will surely tell.Patient Patient.
    Simatos.

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  19. Direct flights must be the marketing support of Seychelles as destination in order to attract back European tourist to Seychelles,the later have been discouraged by the fact that there is no direct flights to Seychelles.Arguing and forcing potential into Dubhai duty free has been the policy of Eithad and Airsey and this policy has proven not effective for since Dubahi is providing in code share with Airsey EUROEPAN;/DUBAHI /SEYCHELLES as a solution to boost arrivals in Seychelles we have seen as opposite effects on our tourism industry namely a free fall of arrivlas and if nothing is changed the free fall will continue while our neighbours would be benefitting.In other words,transit via dubahi from Europe to Seychelles is a flop recognized by profeesional both Nationally and tour operators internationally as those Frenhc specialists who is calling and insisting for Direct flight connection from Europe to Seychelles.


    It is amazing to see how a government is damaging its own tourism industry because of redicule pretexts such as forced transit in Dubahi or elsewhere while our neighbours such as Kenya Airlines and Kenyan governents are successfully implememnt polcies that making boosting its tourism industry.For instance as from this year American Airline would be Operating four weekly flights to Kenyan^s Capital which would boost the Kenyan tourism arrivals considerably towards success.

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  20. It I clear that is pl is responsible government it should stop dictating unnecessary conditions such as technical stop in Dubhai,for there is no need for it.It also cealr that the main problem due to the descrease in arrivals to our shores is mainaly cause by the fact thatthere is no driect lfights to our shores.So,it is clear then that the solution is tacit,namely operating direct lfights to our main market.There is no other reasons that explain the deficit in arrivals to our shores than not having direct flights to our main market.This fact cannot be ignored by Morgan/Pl.DRIECT FLIGHTS NOW PL.

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  21. It is communist new way of interpreting eual rights.During the Soviet Union ,sateliites communist countires like Seychelles sung the song of equality and non class ,today Pl communists seems to wild capitalism,Huamn rights abuses,and class politics which is a form of racism being perpetuated by Pl thugs.We afeer segration was brought to an end in S Africa of which Pl thugs was crying against would be part of the history of African continent ,no we wrong Pl has introduces it in Seychelles.

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  22. We have sure gone full circle. From the days JRM fixed land sales to Arabs, past 5th June into one party. Now back to 'multiparty democracy' JAM thinks the island belongs to him. He shares it with his filthy rich arab friends. JAM has an excellent teacher in JRM !

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  23. He thinks not only the island belongs to him, but that he is our chosen prophet and therefore above the law,or better say he is the law of the land and the people must subjugate to him.
    Someone to like idiot Michel ,the best someone could do with him is ,,,,wear him a parachute ,waer him a military fatigue,fly him over Syria --over zone occupied by ISLAMIC STAES and parachute down directly over the battle in order that when he touches the ground he is tore into pieces by rounds of heavy machines.

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  24. Morgan and Pl telll us they will do everything to get Airsey takes off.Was Airsey grounded or operating the wrong routes Morgen?

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  25. St Ange tells us Marketing Seychelles involve everyone,Right St Ange,just as decision-making should also involve everyone.Why is Pl dictating Its WILL on the EBVRYONE St Ange?Why not listen to experts in the industry instead of following Khlifas' will,abitions and strategy?

    St Ange ,in a way,shows how without EVERYONE participation how things generate negative outcomes.With everyone involve and participating ,of course ,help formulating realistic,nationalistic policies.EVERYONE participation, should be a sacrosanct role in government's decision-making,which is a transformative tool for real social,economic change.

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  26. 23.09
    Morgan has proven himself as incompetent,underqualified and he has nothing to do except resigning and go join Govinden in the hard rug trafficking as courier.

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  27. Michel the donkey travel the world bla balhing about climate change,at home Morin PUc thief talk about increasing and buying new power station that is more fuel used genrators to polluate the atmphere and thereby help climate warming.Instead of using what all Seychellois think we should od namely start active development of the use of Soalr Energy something we have abandonely and all year round for free,Morin thinking of the millions he has so far pocket from the coffer of PUC ,talks about more environment unfriendly Power stations which means more polluations.

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  28. Although,piracy has been long radicated and agreed by the world,Partilepepe is still singing about piracy.Morgan will be in Dubai to meet with Khalfia to illegally approve Khalfa's illegal Victoria planning disguise as meeting on Piracy .The song of piracy that partilepep criminals keep singing is affecting the imageof Seychelles aborad,discou to visit our shores, this is a criminal policy by partilepep thugs which consist only to pocketing moneyther is good or not for Seychelles.

    We donot have any priates in our EEZ,partilepepe,and no one would ever approve your rediclue.And finally What has Dubai to do in fightin priacy?Was Dubai the most atice fighter aginst piracy when it struk us years ago?There is no need to disguise under the blanket of meeting on piracy morgan,Seychellois knows you going to illegally sell out seycheelles to Khalfia as FAURE is selling sechlles to Islamic states.

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  29. Partilepep monkeys seems to havw just discovered that Seychellois as any other Nation has a culture and tradtion.And they do it as if they think Seychellois people like them did not know we have culture and traditions--

    YES monkeys.Seychellois has a culture and traditions as any other nations and culture and tradtions.Yes monkeys,we have a culture and tradtions ,and for Seychellois it is tacit.And Seychellois know that it is not Hinduism or Islamism,that hindu religious procession by HnIndian are illegal ,a distortion of our culture,and criminal.

    We know monkeys,that Culture and tradtions ---represent who we are,our history,past,,,,,....they give us our Seychellois identity as a people and Nation monkeys.

    You know what marons,,this illegal Hindu temple built by Seychellois tax payers money must be destroyed and replaced by a BASILIC that is a church monkeys,we are not hindu,and expat indian eorkers are not Seychellois and would never be accepted as faked illegal Seychellois.We donot want ot see any more Hindu celebration in our country,Hindu celebrations must take palce in Indai,Sir Lanka, maybe Mauritius but not in our Christian land monkeys,

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  30. Information for partilepep and Morin of PUC.Scietists had already discovered and madeknown that there is 100 times more fresh water under Ocean than we have used wold wide in the 20th century.
    Instead of wasting tax payers money to search for curde oil maybe tax payers money should be used to search Under Ocean fresh water wells as scientists has discovered in South Africa and elsewhere.Thinking of the total of fresh water under OCean the probability of find wells in our EEz is high,and worth tyring Morin instead of robbing our money.

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